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17 July – Cancel debt, Choose hope

by Paul Kelly

Reflections on the Mass Lobby of Parliament for Climate Change on 9th July

The day was a great opportunity for making connections around the country. Amongst others I spoke with various Diocesan Environmental Leads, ECG Group, CAFOD of course (lots of their key people were involved) and their new LiveSimply lead, Phoebe Worthington. Bishop John was there all day and was very accessible for anyone who wanted to chat with him.

I had a direct reply from Sir Julian Smith (MP for Skipton and Ripon) to my email, asking to meet in his office just before PMQs. I was the only one there, so we had a one-to-one and he didn’t sound like he was planning any other meeting. One of his assistants sat with us, in the large covered café-style meeting area in the centre of the building. Lots of other MPs were doing something similar there.

The Act Now Change Forever Mass Lobby Like many, I’ve met and corresponded with the MP several times before. He’s been in our ‘safe Conservative seat’ for more than a decade and held government positions in the past. He was more relaxed than when in government and seemed more willing to share his views rather than simply the ‘party line’. I opened by asking him where he saw the country was with the issue of climate change. He clearly accepts the issue and is supportive of consistent progress to address it but keen not to create any economic stress on individuals or the country’s economy. He knows my views well (for much faster action proactively rather than waiting and being on the back foot all the time) and I’ve already written to follow-up our meeting.

He was aware of the Community Energy projects we have in Settle, and of which the Catholic Church is hoping to be a significant part, and is very supportive of them. I used the opportunity to press a previous invitation to come and see, which he accepted for the autumn. I also explained the lobby was about global debt and he seemed to agree with the problem but there wasn’t time to discuss any solutions. I mentioned my connection with CAFOD and their campaigning on the issue; he knew CAFOD and praised their work/ethos. I simply asked him to support any serious moves that would contribute to progress on the issue.

And finally, we had actually opened the conversation with Assisted Dying. I thanked him for voting against the bill after a correspondence in its earlier stages. We agreed the complexities of the issue and the need to keep pushing for more comprehensive palliative care so that people do not choose to kill themselves from believing they “have no choice.”

IMG_2496 We covered a lot in 12 minutes, all the time there was before he dashed off to PMQs.

Was it worthwhile going all that way?

Absolutely. I am certain it’s important to meet and put faces to names, and to hear from everyday constituents about wider concerns. Every conversation helps to form opinions.

I think it’s also important to see so many people in one place at one time. It gives real impetus to the views being shared. Taking the trouble to travel, queue, etc conveys a real sense of how critical are the issues being spotlighted.

15 July – MASS LOBBY OF PARLIAMENT ON CLIMATE CHANGE

By ENews editor

Wednesday 09 July saw a mass lobby of Parliament to keep up the pressure on politicians about Climate Change.

CAFOD is a key part of the coalition of organisations involved and CAFOD supporters from across the country descended on Westminster to try and talk to their own MP’s. A group of 3 people attending from the Leeds parish of Our Lady of Kirkstall were Marian & Michael Emly and Bronagh Daly (who also represented Leeds Church Institute).

Leading up to the lobby day itself, CAFOD has been running a campaign to get parishioners to sign a petition asking the Government, in this Jubilee Year of Hope, to address the debt crisis affecting the global South. The number of low and middle-income countries in debt crisis has more than doubled since 2015: 54 countries are now in debt crisis compared with 22 countries in 2015. In Africa, 34 countries spend more on external debt payments than on health or education, when hospitals and schools are already desperately underfunded. Debts are being paid at the expense of hiring doctors and teachers, building schools, hospitals and sewage systems, preparing for floods, or coping with droughts.

Mass lobby at Westminster. Big Ben in background Michael Emly commented,

“The petition last Sunday was a tremendous success and we collected 220 signatures which we will now send the sheets off to CAFOD to be collated with others from around the country… I have to say that I am really proud to be part of a parish that can show this level of commitment to solidarity with our sisters and brothers in the world's poorest countries.”

The lobby actually involved a lot of different organisations under the umbrella of the Climate Coalition, and around 5,000 people took part from all around the country. They took over 2 floors of a large building opposite Westminster Abbey for the day, and CAFOD had an area within it. Michael comments,

“This was great as we were able to meet up with lots of other CAFOD supporters, but also with Bishop John Arnold of Salford and with Fr. Charlie from Kenya - the priest whose letter was read out last Sunday. There was a series of talks throughout the day, but unfortunately Fr. Charlie was timetabled to speak in the morning, before we arrived. Even so, a great privilege.”

Fr Charlie’s picture features in the CAFOD resources about the debt relief campaign.

Marian Emly talks to Father Charlie from Kenya Our Lady of Kirkstall parish covers quite a large area of NW Leeds and their local MP is Alex Sobel. Michael, Marian and Bronagh were able to meet with him and Michael takes up the story:

“It wasn't until quite late in the afternoon that we were able to meet with Alex Sobel, but it was really worthwhile because it was just the 3 of us - none of his other constituents who had registered to attend actually turned up. So we were able to discuss the issues around Debt Justice at length and tie it in to the broader theme of climate change by explaining how debt repayments are a millstone around the necks of people in poorer countries as the size of the debt repayments prevents proper investment in mitigating the effects of climate change as well as reducing the money that is available to spend in areas like healthcare and education. In fact, I was very impressed by the awareness that Alex had of all these issues and his willingness to consider ways of addressing them - he told us that he had taken part in similar demonstrations 25 years ago when there was a similar focus on cancelling debt and achieving the "Millennium Development Goals". And he did share various ideas about how the issues might be addressed. And, of course, we stressed to Alex that we weren't lone voices in his constituency, because 220 people had signed the petition just a few days earlier."

Marian, Michael and Angela with MP Alex Sobel The Debt Relief (Developing Countries) Bill had its scheduled second reading in the House of Commons on Friday 11 July 2025, but it was not debated due to “lack of unanimous consent” – which means that it did not progress. It also means that there is still time to take action!

Showing solidarity with the poorest in the world is a fundamental part of being a Catholic. A very simple action that everyone could take is to sign the online version of the CAFOD petition. Just follow this link: https://action.cafod.org.uk/page/161357/petition/1